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Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx #13713 07/03/13 04:37 PM
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I have been doing research on bigger boats for 'down the road'. I think these 2 models are my top 2 so far for my next 'future' boat.

What is your opinions between Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx?

225hp vs 250hp? (It can be Mercury, Yamaha, or Evinrude)

Yes I know there are tons of other model boats just as good if not better. I know answers can be biased but I still like hearing what y'all have to say.

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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13714 07/03/13 06:52 PM
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To be honest, you'll probably get mostly biased feedback on this topic. It will be like a Ford vs. Chevy debate, so I'll save my Ranger sales pitch for smack talk some other time. The best thing to do to make a decision is ride in them both and take a hard look at how they handle storage and fishability. There may be things that excite you more about certain features than others. Only you can decide what fits your needs the best. That was a nice side effect of riding as a marshal in the Elite tourneys. You really get to see how a boat rides at top speed and how it handles a tourney load of gear. Also the pros are more than happy to share the good and bad about the boat they run.


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Let's see I got one of those boats.
I would go for the Ranger they may be the best riding boats out there.


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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: IceAAA] #13717 07/03/13 08:15 PM
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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13718 07/03/13 09:21 PM
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Thanks Andy. I really do appreciate the information. I have personally rode in a 2006 Stratos 201 Pro XL with a 225 Mercury Optimax. With a full tournament load and 2 people it was running 73mph. I was amazed how smooth of a ride it was.
But I have not rode in a Ranger yet.

What is it like being a Marshall? How much is it to be a Marshall?

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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13720 07/04/13 12:21 AM
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If that's the only two, I go with the Ranger!! You need to ride in a Ranger, before you buy one. Both will have their own pro's and con's. Just don't look at outer parts look in lower deck compartments how things are layed out and access to get to it, if you need to repair or replace later.


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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13723 07/04/13 12:53 AM
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Thanks Bill smile
Yes it is true. I should actually ride both before choosing one or the other.
These are great boats and I chose these 2 to talk about because they both seem to have similar specifications.
These are not the only 2 brands as possible 'future' boat choices. Skeeter, phoenix, Ranger, Stratos, and Nitro are all possible choices. Depending on when I am wishing to upgrade is basically what I can afford. Buying a Stratos seems to be pretty affordable compared to ranger prices.


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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13724 07/04/13 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FishermanFrank
What is it like being a Marshall? How much is it to be a Marshall?


You must be a BASS member first. This year it was $125 and prizes (swag) vary by BASS sponsors at the time and event. So far I have ridden with nice guys (and they mostly are). My experience has been on a lake I know so it is interesting contrasting your knowlege with a pro to determine how different you fish the same body of water. I haven't done it on an unknown lake yet but plan to next year. To be honest those guys aren't a whole lot different than us when fishing a tourney. The big difference aside from sponsors is the mental fortitude and stamina they possess. Spend a week truly following the work those guys put into their job and it gives you a real appreciation of it being called a sport.


Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13726 07/04/13 03:24 AM
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Thanks Andy.
That sounds pretty cool smile
It should be fun to possibly try that sometime. It sounds like a great learning experience.


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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13796 07/08/13 02:01 PM
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Ranger, Triton, and Stratos are all now owned by a private equity firm and built in the Ranger plant in Ark. Has been this way for the past few years. Each is a good boat with both negative and positives...Andy gave some very good advice.

I've had two Tritons...a TR196 and a 19X2...and liked both...the X2 had a much better ride than the TR196.

I traded the the X2 for a Skeeter ZX 20 and love all of the storage and the big front deck...the ride is also good.

Have fun looking....Boating Atlanta is a good place to look for new or used boats as they always seem to have a good variety to choose from...and will work with you if you want to trade your current boat.


Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13801 07/08/13 04:29 PM
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Thanks for the information Tom smile
I guess choosing my next boat can get just as overwhelming as choosing the type of lures to use to fish. I just have to take one step at a time. I can't really afford much more than my current boat (as of now but things could change down the road) but it's nice to get a good understanding on what I plan on doing for my next future boat.


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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13806 07/08/13 08:51 PM
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I will say I am disappointed with the Stratos/Ranger customer service. I have been calling all day trying to get info on two factory parts I need and it immediately goes to eternal hold each time... so far I have called no bs 10 times and held from 3-5 minutes each time. I just need some dang parts!!!

I have to edit this and say that I do love my stratos boat though. For the money it is an awesome boat, Speed, handling, storage, stability and price point. I plan on having it paid off in a year and maybe upgrading to a bigger boat. I would like to have a 20' w/250 E-TEC or Yamaha. Only real reason is I like to go FAST! Shoot I may just keep this one and get a go fast family boat.

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I wonder if Ranger parts are the same people? Every time I have called they are extemely helpful and quick. They talked me through a whole hub and break assembly and figured out the kit to save me the most $$$. Also, walked me through the work and I'm far from a mechanic.


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The phone picks up with ranger parts hold message. I have now been on hold for 10min... 15 MIN NOW

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Craig - Yeah your boat looks pretty awesome and I bet it goes pretty good with the 150 etec. I would be more pleased with my boat but only having a 90hp it is preventing me from cover more water throughout the day. It's a great set up and I'm not complaining but I am starting to get ready for a bigger and faster boat. But until it's the right timing for me to upgrade, I have to make do with my boat and make smarter decisions on the few areas I choose to fish. I know I'm still capable of winning local tournaments with my Nitro and 90hp Mercury Optimax, I just have to sit down, do my homework and be the best prepared I can be and go fish my heart out for 8 hours smile


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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13818 07/09/13 01:24 PM
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I will be the first to tell you that your boat does not catch the fish. You can get plenty of places with that 90. My last Stratos only had a 125 and it got me plenty of places. I still need some time setting up my boat but I have gotten it to run 63.5 with my full tournament load 1/2-3/4 tank of gas and just me in it. With two people a full livewell and same amount of gas 61 is the best I can get out of it. I need to bring the motor up some because I am only turning 5450 rpms and still have 22-25lbs of water pressure at wot. I really need to send the prop off to have it worked. My goal is 65-67 at 5850-6k rpms. I have heard of people turning this motor to 6250 but I am not sure I would want to. Oh and after almost 20min of holding for Ranger parts they picked up and the lady was super nice and helpful.

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Ok nice. Yeah my boat would easily be around those speeds if I had a 150 on the back.
I'm guessing 44-45 MPH with a 22 pitch laser 2 prop at 5500 ramps sounds about right for my 90hp Mercury Optimax??
That speed was by myself, normal tournament load and full tank of gas. (31 gallon tank) and before I started to fill the Livewell.

Boat Specs:
Length: 17'9"
Width: 7'2"
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Max hp: 150


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Re: Stratos 201 Pro XL vs Ranger 520vx [Re: FishermanFrank] #13822 07/09/13 05:35 PM
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That sounds fine. Do you have a jack plate? If not I bet you could add a 6" plate and bring that motor up some + a 23 or 24 pitch prop and get that thing moving really well. I would bet there is probably 5+/- mph to be gained for not much money. I have a 6" jack plate now but I am thinking about going with a 10" plate.

edit: I just saw that your boat is rated for a 150? Before you upgrade your whole boat I would sell that 90 and put a 150 on it. I bet you would be surprised at how much better you like the boat. I bet it would be a 65+mph boat.

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No I don't have a jack plate. I do understand it will help. I just have to choose if it is worth putting all that extra $$$$ in this boat when I would spend about that same upgrading to a bigger boat and bigger motor (for a used boat).
Money adds up fast.

Mercury Optimax Pro XS 150hp new or used (low hours)
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The price I would be able to sell my 2006 Mercury Optimax 90hp (120 hrs of use)

Total: ????

It's a pretty tough decision...

Put a few thousand more dollars in this boat or just save that for when I find a good buy on a 20 footer with a 225hp or 250hp??


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True, you could save a ton of money installing everything yourself though. It is very easy work.

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Frank, I have a Z6 with a 135 Mercury Optimax and it will run around 56 with a full tank, and one person. It has the standard Merc. prop and does not have a jack plate. I don't see the model number on you Allatoona Bass post, is yours the Z6? Does it list to starboard just as it start to plane? Mine does and not sure how to fix the issue.

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My Boat is a 2006 Nitro 482 with a 90hp Mercury Optimax.
This was the last year model of these before they started the Z-series. My actual length is 17'9". Z-6 is 17'6" and the Z-7 is 18'6". I know the 150hp would push my boat 65 plus MPH if I adjust everything properly. That would be plenty of speed it's just if I am going to spend thousands of dollars I might as well upgrade boat and motor.. I just have some thinking to do.


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Yes, I think when they went from the 482 to Z6 they DE-rated the HP from 150 to 135. Still not sure why the boat leans just before you get up on plane, and I have seen a lot of comments on forums about the issue.

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Yeah, mine leans until you plane out and trim the motor up some then it flattens out and then is a very smooth ride. I think it is just from the boat design.


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Trim Tab?


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Cliff and Frank, I can think of only a couple of things that would cause the boat to "lean" to the starboard on the hole shot. One is the motor may need a torque compensator on the skeg or readjust your torque tab to the opposite that it may be now (remember that once you are on plane the tab is usually out of the water anyway). The other thing is the planning hook on the hull, located on the first stage strake on the bottom of the hull. You can feel the hull turn downward right at the back of the strake, if the earlier and new versions do the same thing then the odds are that they use the same mold both new and old. Any flaw in the old mold will manifest itself in the new models as well.
Solution, might be to counterbalance the load in the boat, or just live with it (keep both hands on the steering wheel!).


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For sure keep both hands on the wheel, pulls kind of hard.

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I learned to live with it. It is just the last couple seconds before planing out when it try's to turn to the right. You just trim up some and then it is as smooth of a ride as any other boat.

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What Bob said-- I said trim tab but should of said torque tab. The torque tab may just need adjusted.


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I don't know what a torque tab is..


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Frank the torque tab is located on the cavitation plate right above the prop., There is a cap on top of the lower unit directly above the torque tab. if you pop this off you will need a deep socket (not sure what size) to loosen the bolt, so you can change the setting on the tab, then retighten.


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It's the thing in the red circle. If you are running cable steering, that could very well be the issue.


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Oh, ok cool. I'll have to look at it next time I get the boat out.


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